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30 July 2004 @ 05:13 pm
 
jeffreyatw.com v8 is up.

It's supposed to be a more fun, casual layout... and definitely more colorful. Tell me if anything looks wrong, and feel free to give me suggestions. I'd like this layout to be very appealing and very easy to use. Well, that applies for all layouts, but you know. Hey hey lats go.
 
 
 
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 30th, 2004 05:27 pm (UTC)
Looks pretty happy.

In Opera, the image doesn't repeat itself...

http://planetjuri.com/michiru/tempjeff2.jpg

But in IE, it does. However, this is a problem in IE:

http://planetjuri.com/michiru/tempjeff.jpg
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 31st, 2004 01:10 am (UTC)
The problem has to do with the loading order of elements on the page. The stupid thing:

the spans that contain the shadow images on the right and left of the blog - they're set to a height of 100%. That height is determined right after the text on the page is loaded. But THEN, the images load, stretching the table out - and the shadow images don't adjust to fit the new height.

I need some (non-DHTML) way of getting these to adjust to the varying table width. I might be able to do something in terms of replacing TABLEs with DIVs... but I really have no idea where to start.

Any suggestions on your part? :P
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 31st, 2004 01:55 am (UTC)
You could use tables, just put the image as a background... and then the ender as an actual image on the page.

That's how I did Jennie's layout, and it looks the same in all those browsers specified on the layout.

It's a better idea to measure things out and use pixels-- resolutions might make some of it look funny, I think I have the same resolution as you, so it's fine to me.

I'm really sleepy, so if I typed something that doesn't make sense, sorry.
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 31st, 2004 02:00 am (UTC)
Oh yes, don't worry about putting in a fixed height for the table-- the background will repeat itself if you're using the table's background. Forgot to mention...
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 31st, 2004 11:41 am (UTC)
Here's my problem, though - the reason why I can't use this image as a background is because there's no non-Javascript (LJ does not support JavaScript) way to display alpha-transparent PNGs properly in IE - that is, there is a CSS way to do it when images are displayed in SPANs, but not when they're displayed as an attribute in a BACKGROUND tag.

If only IE weren't made of crap, it would be so much easier to code this page.
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 31st, 2004 02:21 pm (UTC)
Hmm, rather than using alpha-transparent pngs, why don't you just use it without transparency? (Take a screenshot, and just use that physical image) I know that looks kind of weird, but it'll work that way, I think... I've never tried using just a plain png as background. Do you think that will solve it?
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 31st, 2004 02:28 pm (UTC)
I don't think it will solve it, because I made the choice to have a lined background. (If you look closely, you'll see it's comprised of 2 different colors.) It gives a nice effect. I COULD just make it so the background is one solid color, and I could rely on something else to give it a nice design, but um... yeah. I guess there's no way around doing that.

http://www.jeffreyatw.com/v8/head.png - take a look at the head of the image - in IE, you'll notice that its background is grey-ish, but in other browsers, it's the color of the browser background (um, white probably). That's the transparency I'm talking about. Gah stupid IE I hate you for making me simplify my layouts.
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 31st, 2004 10:21 pm (UTC)
You're right, I just noticed that now.

._. I don't know what to do, sorry.
ミルス。Seven-Colored Puppeteer of B u c u r e s t i.miluda on July 31st, 2004 10:22 pm (UTC)
Looks like you fixed it, nevermind.
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Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 30th, 2004 11:34 pm (UTC)
Ahahaha, NO. But hey, it's worth a critique or two.
Robynrobynchick on July 30th, 2004 11:08 pm (UTC)
I like!
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 30th, 2004 11:35 pm (UTC)
Thax :D
beauseizure on July 31st, 2004 09:40 am (UTC)
Needs more no tables. The people want padding. I like the look.
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 31st, 2004 11:42 am (UTC)
More no tables? Where could I use padding instead?
beauseizure on July 31st, 2004 06:33 pm (UTC)
Separate statements three.

Don't use tables, put some padding in the main box so the text isn't all scrunched up against the side, and it looks good boss.
Jeffrey Carl Fadenjeffreyatw on July 31st, 2004 06:34 pm (UTC)
I could put a few more pixels of padding in the main box, I guess.

And what do you suggest instead of tables? DIVs?
beauseizure on July 31st, 2004 06:44 pm (UTC)
Of course.